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	<description>:Roll up your sleeves and get messy</description>
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		<title>By: Laura Back</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laura Back</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Sep 2007 18:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello.  My name is Laura.  I am a first year college student on my way to teaching high school.  In my research to answer my first assignment for my Education professor I stumbled across this website.  &quot;Identify on common practice in schools that you would like to change.&quot;  I knew as soon as I read the topic that I would write about the loss of passion in schools today.  As a fairly young woman I found myself looking at the topic from a students point of view.  I remember learning more from one particular teacher in high school than in every other class because the teacher was so passionate.  This passion wasn&#039;t just for the subject itself but for life in general.  I think I grew up a great deal in his class because his passion was contagious and he was willing to step off the &quot;curriculum road&quot;.  I want to thank you all for discussing this problem online.  It has given me a new perspective and some insight from a seasoned teacher&#039;s point of view.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello.  My name is Laura.  I am a first year college student on my way to teaching high school.  In my research to answer my first assignment for my Education professor I stumbled across this website.  &#8220;Identify on common practice in schools that you would like to change.&#8221;  I knew as soon as I read the topic that I would write about the loss of passion in schools today.  As a fairly young woman I found myself looking at the topic from a students point of view.  I remember learning more from one particular teacher in high school than in every other class because the teacher was so passionate.  This passion wasn&#8217;t just for the subject itself but for life in general.  I think I grew up a great deal in his class because his passion was contagious and he was willing to step off the &#8220;curriculum road&#8221;.  I want to thank you all for discussing this problem online.  It has given me a new perspective and some insight from a seasoned teacher&#8217;s point of view.</p>
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		<title>By: Weekly Roundup (9 July 2006) at teaching.mrbelshaw.co.uk</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weekly Roundup (9 July 2006) at teaching.mrbelshaw.co.uk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jul 2006 16:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Wesley Fryer</title>
		<link>http://learningismessy.com/blog/?p=97&#038;cpage=1#comment-288</link>
		<dc:creator>Wesley Fryer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 23:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted a comment on Mark&#039;s post from April today-- thanks for bringing that to my attention, Brian. One thing I hear you both saying is that CLASSROOM TEACHERS NEED AUTONOMY. With autonomy comes freedom of choice with what to do instructionally, and more freedom to take TIME to do things that matter. I agree the voices from the classroom are the most authentic, and the ones people should be listening to most closely. That is a major reason I like following blogs written by people like Mark. Part of my role now, however, is to serve as a loudspeaker for these messages-- to a broader audience. To talk to administrators and legislators about this stuff. I like focusing on the classroom level, but I am very aware that the curricular mandates that tie the hands of teachers make a lot of this edublogosphere stuff just fantasy-- a pipe dream.

I don&#039;t know that I see many &quot;cracks&quot; in the system yet. But you better believe I am working to make them-- and not just on my own, in concert with others with a shared vision, I think. Mark, your story about helping 6 teachers setup personal blogs is GREAT! That is an incremental victory, and definitely one worth celebrating!

We need to keep inviting more people into these conversations. Change may not come fast, but it is coming. Because we are going to lead the way together and help define the shape of that change that&#039;s coming.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted a comment on Mark&#8217;s post from April today&#8211; thanks for bringing that to my attention, Brian. One thing I hear you both saying is that CLASSROOM TEACHERS NEED AUTONOMY. With autonomy comes freedom of choice with what to do instructionally, and more freedom to take TIME to do things that matter. I agree the voices from the classroom are the most authentic, and the ones people should be listening to most closely. That is a major reason I like following blogs written by people like Mark. Part of my role now, however, is to serve as a loudspeaker for these messages&#8211; to a broader audience. To talk to administrators and legislators about this stuff. I like focusing on the classroom level, but I am very aware that the curricular mandates that tie the hands of teachers make a lot of this edublogosphere stuff just fantasy&#8211; a pipe dream.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know that I see many &#8220;cracks&#8221; in the system yet. But you better believe I am working to make them&#8211; and not just on my own, in concert with others with a shared vision, I think. Mark, your story about helping 6 teachers setup personal blogs is GREAT! That is an incremental victory, and definitely one worth celebrating!</p>
<p>We need to keep inviting more people into these conversations. Change may not come fast, but it is coming. Because we are going to lead the way together and help define the shape of that change that&#8217;s coming.</p>
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		<title>By: learnin2</title>
		<link>http://learningismessy.com/blog/?p=97&#038;cpage=1#comment-279</link>
		<dc:creator>learnin2</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 21:26:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks Mark! I&#039;ve had similar experiences this year and when I have my kids blogging next year I&#039;m hoping others will be interested - I&#039;ll be blogging this summer about some things I&#039;m going to get to try next year as soon as I get a chance to think it through some more. I&#039;ll probably pick your brain about your experience with blogging with students. Happy summer!
Brian</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Mark! I&#8217;ve had similar experiences this year and when I have my kids blogging next year I&#8217;m hoping others will be interested &#8211; I&#8217;ll be blogging this summer about some things I&#8217;m going to get to try next year as soon as I get a chance to think it through some more. I&#8217;ll probably pick your brain about your experience with blogging with students. Happy summer!<br />
Brian</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Ahlness</title>
		<link>http://learningismessy.com/blog/?p=97&#038;cpage=1#comment-277</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Ahlness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 Jun 2006 20:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Brian, nice post. I do agree with you about what is sucking the passion out of the profession. I&#039;m glad you see some cracks in the wall, because I don&#039;t. The demon I&#039;ve been struggling with this year was a schoolwide writing curriculum (built on the &quot;writer&#039;s workshop&quot; idea) that had no technology component - pencil and paper, Mead notebooks, right out of the 19th and 20th centuries. I did it, but I also got my kids blogging - and that experience was just incredible.

Give teachers maybe just a little chance to change on their own, do their own thing, research and try out new things - and  then let&#039;s see if the passion is gone.

Yesterday, I brought my colleagues up to our computer lab - I promised them 20 minutes. Last day of work. End of a long day of meetings. I just wanted to show them what the lab would look like next year, since we just upgraded it. Imagine the energy. Imagine the enthusiasm... the drooped shoulders, the exhausted faces.

I talked for about 15 minutes about the lab, upgrades happening this summer, and so on. Then I thought I&#039;d throw in just a bit about blogging. Why not? Nothing to lose, I had talked about it before, shown them my class blog during the year, etc. 

I suggested they all get a personal blog going this summer. Just to try it out, I said. I worked myself up to some pretty passionate stuff in about 60 seconds - ending with something like, &quot;if we as teachers don&#039;t embrace and use these incredible new tools, and teach our kids how to use them safely, then I think we will be failing our kids, and I think ultimately, we will be  negligent. Nobody else is going to do it. It&#039;s up to us....&quot; etc.

Somebody asked how they could start a blog. I showed them edublogs.org - within 10 minutes, over six teachers had a blog set up. I don&#039;t know how many were successful, everybody was trying at once, getting a username, blog title, etc - I felt like I was back in the classroom again - yikes! It was great.

Now I don&#039;t expect that they will all continue this - but I bet a couple will. I send this story along as an example of what teachers can do when the other stuff is out of the way - the tests, the rigid curricula, the endless meetings, the expectations that they be mindless implementers of the &quot;perfect program&quot;, etc.

I put a little passion out there for my colleagues, and many grabbed at it, even in their exhausted state. They were taking a chance to learn something new, to grow on their own, to experiment, to play. The spark is still there, it just needs to be lit - and given a little room to breathe.

I&#039;ll get back to you on my &quot;rant&quot; later. - Mark</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Brian, nice post. I do agree with you about what is sucking the passion out of the profession. I&#8217;m glad you see some cracks in the wall, because I don&#8217;t. The demon I&#8217;ve been struggling with this year was a schoolwide writing curriculum (built on the &#8220;writer&#8217;s workshop&#8221; idea) that had no technology component &#8211; pencil and paper, Mead notebooks, right out of the 19th and 20th centuries. I did it, but I also got my kids blogging &#8211; and that experience was just incredible.</p>
<p>Give teachers maybe just a little chance to change on their own, do their own thing, research and try out new things &#8211; and  then let&#8217;s see if the passion is gone.</p>
<p>Yesterday, I brought my colleagues up to our computer lab &#8211; I promised them 20 minutes. Last day of work. End of a long day of meetings. I just wanted to show them what the lab would look like next year, since we just upgraded it. Imagine the energy. Imagine the enthusiasm&#8230; the drooped shoulders, the exhausted faces.</p>
<p>I talked for about 15 minutes about the lab, upgrades happening this summer, and so on. Then I thought I&#8217;d throw in just a bit about blogging. Why not? Nothing to lose, I had talked about it before, shown them my class blog during the year, etc. </p>
<p>I suggested they all get a personal blog going this summer. Just to try it out, I said. I worked myself up to some pretty passionate stuff in about 60 seconds &#8211; ending with something like, &#8220;if we as teachers don&#8217;t embrace and use these incredible new tools, and teach our kids how to use them safely, then I think we will be failing our kids, and I think ultimately, we will be  negligent. Nobody else is going to do it. It&#8217;s up to us&#8230;.&#8221; etc.</p>
<p>Somebody asked how they could start a blog. I showed them edublogs.org &#8211; within 10 minutes, over six teachers had a blog set up. I don&#8217;t know how many were successful, everybody was trying at once, getting a username, blog title, etc &#8211; I felt like I was back in the classroom again &#8211; yikes! It was great.</p>
<p>Now I don&#8217;t expect that they will all continue this &#8211; but I bet a couple will. I send this story along as an example of what teachers can do when the other stuff is out of the way &#8211; the tests, the rigid curricula, the endless meetings, the expectations that they be mindless implementers of the &#8220;perfect program&#8221;, etc.</p>
<p>I put a little passion out there for my colleagues, and many grabbed at it, even in their exhausted state. They were taking a chance to learn something new, to grow on their own, to experiment, to play. The spark is still there, it just needs to be lit &#8211; and given a little room to breathe.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll get back to you on my &#8220;rant&#8221; later. &#8211; Mark</p>
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